Sunday, February 12, 2006

Do You Care?

Once God stops hearing from His people that sin bothers us, He allows us to live in the filth that we tolerate.

If you care about the state of Portland's spiritual health, please drop a comment under the comments link below.

Just leaving your first name and what part of town (or the world) you live in would be a blessing to your neighbors.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sex industry in Portland is really another symptom of the real problem. The problem isn't Portland in and of its self. The real problem is the Church as a whole in Portland. That is where the problem lies and that is where the problem has always been. 2 Chronicles 7:14 says,God Speaking," If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves and pray,and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and heal their land.
So before we try cleaning out the speck we need to take out the plank in our own eyes first.

2/13/2006 1:25 PM  
Blogger Summiteer said...

Thanks, Chris. I've been concerned about this issue for a long time. Within a half mile of my home there are a dozen of these "adult" businesses. Some time ago I made up a few informational signs and became the lone "picket" in front of one of these nearby sex shops.

All of this is done in the name of "freedom of expression" of course. For you or anyone else to decry the cheapening of physical love, or the debasing of women is to be branded a "Mullah" or a fanatic. I know this from experience. But we're not talking about making laws or legislating morality here. We're merely exercising freedom of expression to let other people know what we think. We're urging people to speak out, abstain, excercise self-control to voluntarily opt out and by doing so, say that businesses that profit from the baser nature of our citizens is bad for a city. We should say what we think shouldn't we? That's what I've always been taught. To remain silent is to imply acquiescence to conditions in our city that we find reprehensible.

Keep it up.

2/13/2006 1:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I care. Chris, Troutdale

2/13/2006 5:17 PM  
Anonymous Little PDX girl said...

I appreciated the comments posted in response to Willamette Week's disgusting article (for anyone who hasn't read it, I would advise against it because it will make your stomach churn). The comments were very encouraging to me. I felt challenged to make a habit of praying for the S.O.B.s (sex oriented businesses) that I pass by. Praying is definitely the place to start, but why stop there? We should voice our opinions and pickett, like Summiteer, and push for changes in legislation. If we organize with others who care about this issue, with the help of God, we can make a difference.

2/14/2006 11:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, there are many of us who do care and share your concern and frustration over this mounting problem, not only in Portland but unfortunately everywhere (billboards, television, radio, Internet, etc.). I appreciate your approach in dealing with these issues; not condemnation and judgement, but true concern and pity for a life spent on such uselessness. Thank the Lord we have a God who is completely _capable_ of changing hearts and who listens to our fervent prayers.

Medford, Oregon

2/16/2006 11:14 PM  
Blogger Praying For Purity In Portland said...

Why not go further than prayer? Why not force people into morality by way of politics, etc.?

We are mistaken if we think that we can convince or bully society into holiness. Your community will not be free of sinful establishments unless it turns to Christ. Leading a community to Christ is the way to positive, enduring changes in a democratic society.

Just as He saught us out, Our Savior is also calling His children from the darkest corners of society. From your own death to sin, you know that a true heart change is an Almighty mystery. We should be heralds for Christ, but so many of us want to take up arms and fight. I contest that the culture wars we find ourselves in are a distraction from the dispersal of the Good News and hinder our ability to demonstrate the love of Christ to our neighbors.

Do not play into Satan's hands. Do not allow a judgmental or superior attitude guide you, that is the way of the world (and mockers are more than happy to cite Luke 6:37 back at you). Constantly check yourself to make sure that you do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, and pray for those who hurt you. Follow Christ's example and give all glory to your Heavenly Father.

2/17/2006 12:12 AM  
Anonymous Little pdx girl said...

Dear Praying For Purity in Portland,

I am curious about your views on other current issues and battles within the culture war. Do you think that it was wrong to fight the lawsuit that tried to have the words “under God” removed from the pledge of allegence? Do you think it was wrong to fight for the preservation of the inaugural pray? Do you think it is wrong to legally oppose partial birth abortion? Do you see these as distractions or hinderences? What about fighting a discriminatory government agency to ensure that religious organizations have the same access as other community organiztions to public facilities, including schools? I'm interested in your perspective.

2/21/2006 3:08 PM  
Blogger Praying For Purity In Portland said...


Thanks for bringing up the examples of various issues that American Christians have recently been active in. You've presented a mix of issues that differ in how they should be addressed. Upholding justice for the defenseless is a far cry away from our removing "Under God" from the Pledge. I think that in regards to the Pledge, it actually grieves God to hear empty words and promises from non-believers, don't you? I'll leave it up to you to decide if the various types activism you described each individually fall outside of or inside of obedience according to the following:

Earthly wisdom dictates that because we Christians are so wonderfully righteous (sarchasm intended), we should expect everyone to conform to our sense of right and wrong. But the wisdom of the Most High is to be kind to the unthankful and merciful to the wicked. We know this to be true, because He was kind to us even as we once rejected of Him! We must have compassion, just as Our Father has compassion. We must operate with an eternal agenda, and realize the delicate nature of the souls of those who are lost. Are your actions like light piercing the darkness? Grace, where grace is undeserved? Love for those who hate you? Or are you a predictable caricature, a bigot, a heart-hardener?

What did Christ call us to do? Make disciples of all peoples or boycott Company X for supporting Liberal Value Y?

Are we helping to lead the lost into the flock of our Good Shepherd? Much of what we do in the name of Christ is a disobedient avoidance of His directive to go forth making disciples of all peoples, baptizing in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Teaching new disciples to obey all the commands of Christ is part of our commission, but this teaching of obedience only applies to those who have given their hearts over to following Him. We cannot expect our righteousness forced on others to make them any happier about living under the condemnation of the law. The proper goal is to demonstrate that there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus.

Consider the words of Christ below from John 10 and think of the "hired hand" as your earthly authority, the law of the land, or the consensus of the masses,

"I am the good shepherd.  The good shepherd sacrifices his life for his sheep.  A hired hand will run when he sees a wolf coming.  He will abandon the sheep because they don't belong to him and he isn't their shepherd. And so the wolf attacks them and scatters the flock.  The hired hand runs away because he's working only for the money and doesn't care about the sheep. I am the good shepherd; I know my own sheep, and they know me, just as my Father knows me and I know the Father.  So I sacrifice my life for the sheep.  I have other sheep too that are not in this sheepfold.  I must bring them also.  They will listen to my voice, and there will be one flock with one shepherd"-John 10:11-16

2/23/2006 1:46 AM  
Anonymous Little pdx girl said...

Praying for Purity in Portland,

You and I agree on more things than we disagree on. We agree that we ought to follow Christ’s example, that we should focus on spreading to Good News and making disciples, and that we should be compassionate and love those who hate us (just to name a few examples).

Here’s a thought from a Christian apologist named Gregory Koukl:
“Wouldn't we consider it unconscionable to neglect a child's moral instruction? Certainly we'd never accept as justification for negligence in this area the excuse, "My rules can never change a child's rebellious heart. Only the Gospel can do that." We wouldn't accept it because we know that we are responsible to do more in the care and moral training of our children.
“We expect to raise moral children by giving them rules to live by. We punish our children when they break them and praise them when they obey. In the process, they develop virtues and live out virtuous lives later as adults, when our rules are not around to inform them.
“If this procedure works so well in a family, why can't it work for a nation?”
©1999 Gregory Koukl. Reproduction permitted for non-commercial use only.
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2/24/2006 12:58 AM  
Anonymous eg said...

Let's pray for opportunities to make genuine relationships with people in the industry-- rather than them thinking we are against them as individuals, it would be awesome to see change stem out of relationship. While some followers of Christ are offended by the 'methods' of the guys at I think we would do well to learn from their attitudes-- being willing to accept others, give of their time, and put themselves out there where they may be criticized from every 'side.' The best-waged wars are won with creativity and love.

3/09/2006 4:38 PM  

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